Conference in Review - October 2017


It's only been a few days since conference, and we hope the messages are still ringing in your ears! In this episode, we discuss some of the highlights of the conference and give an overview of the talks that touched us. We are looking forward to our upcoming interviews with all of you about the conference and the messages that stood out to YOU, so please reach out and share with us your favorite quotes!

Prepare the Way - Making the Most of the Aaronic Priesthood


This is the final talk we were able to cover before the Sept/Oct General Conference of 2017. In it, we chat with Andrew Astin about Bishop Causse's talk "Prepare the Way," and we learn a lot about how to maximize the potential of our Aaronic Priesthood brethren. Andrew is a medical student in North Carolina, and he brings a wealth of knowledge to the table about all sorts of subjects. Don't forget to stick around for the Virtuous, Lovely, and Good Report when Andrew shares some amazing insight he received from one of his mentors!


  • The talk itself:

  • President Ucthdorf’s talk on Alma and Amulek:

  • Elder Ballard’s talk “Return and Receive”:

  • From Jesus the Christ by James E. Talmage: “Even the profane sinner in the foul sacrilege of his oath acclaims the divine supremacy of Him whose name he desecrates.” (

  • President John Taylor on “Boys will be men.”: “What will the boys be when they are grown up. They will be men, will they not? They are now the sons of men. If a man be inducted into the family of God, and becomes a son of God, what will he become when he gets his growth? You can figure that out yourselves.” This was used by President Taylor to show that we will become as God is, but it also clearly articulated Andrew’s point about boys turning into men!”

  • President Hinckley’s “Lessons I learned as a boy.” -

  • “Don’t be a donkey” - “The Ass of Buridan” -

  • Andrew’s OB/GYN doctor on healing people spiritually - “They’re not going to allow you to try and help them spiritually, but you still can. Every single patient I have, no matter what, before I go into the room I say a quick, short prayer for them. That they’ll be able to feel the spirit and to be able to have some kind of spiritual health in their life, even if this is the only time that anyone prays for them.”

  • Music by Jonny Easton



Get to Know a Host - Wes!


We've had a great response to our last episode where Jason peeled back the layers and gave us a peek into how he views the world. In this episode, Jason turns the tables on Wes and we find out a little about him, as well!

We know you've come to Talks on Talks to learn about General Conference talks, but we hope that getting to know the hosts will help give some insight on to how they view the talks and what they hope to accomplish through this podcast! Thank you for listening!

Music: Homeward Bound by Jonny Easton

Return and Receive - How to Make Plans and Go for the "Goal-ed"


Most people like to think they are pretty good at setting goals. Anyone who has ever heard of a SMART goal is pretty sure they know what they’re doing, right? Well, in his talk Return and Receive, Elder M. Russell Ballard his insights on how we can make the most of our temporal and spiritual goals.

This episode captures our discussion on the differences between goals and plans, our methods for self-reflection and self-mastery, and how reading “The Family: A Proclamation to the World” without the context of “The Living Christ” makes no sense!

Don’t forget to stick around until the end of the episode for the Virtuous, Lovely, and Good Report, where we share resources that you can use in your own talks at church.


Overcoming the World - Taking a Stand Against Internal Foes


What keeps me from getting closer to the Savior? How could I do better? Is there anything that I need to remove from or add to my life in order to feel the Spirit more throughout the day? Discussing Elder Andersen’s talk “Overcoming the World” was a great chance for us to do some self-analysis and determine what things in the world are holding us back. The references in this episode were coming left and right, so be sure to check out the things we talk about after listening! Thank you!

Show Notes:

Stand Up Inside and Be All In - Living a Consecrated Life


It’s Summer 2017! That means a whole lot of work for medical and dental students, and a whole lot of family time during the brief moments away from school. That also means there’s not a lot of time for two Average Joes to podcast, so this episode comes almost a month after the last edition of Talks on Talks. We apologize to all those who have been actively listening and expecting a new episode weekly, but it’s here now and there are more to come!

In this episode we talk about Gary A. Sabin’s talk “Stand Up Inside and Be All In,” which has to be one of our favorite talks we’ve discussed so far (seriously, just listen and you’ll know how much Jason loved it). It had a little bit of everything and reminded us of a lot of other resources you can use to talk about this same concept. Hope you enjoy it!

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Songs Sung and Unsung - All God's Critters Got a Place in the Choir


This episode has been a long time coming! After a brief hiatus, we’re back with this excellent discussion on Elder Holland’s talk “Songs Sung and Unsung.” We discuss diversity, differing perspectives on theologies, and the importance of learning how to keep things sacred. There are a mountain of show notes attached to this episode, so we hope you can dig in and enjoy all the extra content here!


Show Notes:

The talk:

Elder Holland’s Master’s Thesis on the Book of Mormon changes:

Elder Holland on his dissertation on Mark Twain:

Quote: Jim Rohn - “You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with.”

Theologian on religious diversity - Krister Stendahl -

Church’s video on temples - “Between Heaven and Earth” -

Article comparing social media’s ideals and mommy blogging with pornography:

Alma on prayers being in vain if we don’t care for the poor - Alma 34:28.

Elder Holland’s talk on Mental Illness - Like a Broken Vessel -

The ranking of General Conference talks by complexity:

Face to Face Fireside with President Eyring and Elder Holland

Quote from Brandon Sanderson’s “The Well of Ascension”: “Those who take lightly promises they make to those they love are people who find little lasting satisfaction in life. This is not an easy time in which to live. That does not mean that it has to be a difficult time to love”

St. Augustine’s quote on evil: “Since God is the highest good, he would not allow any evil to exist in his works unless his omnipotence and goodness were such as to bring good even out of evil.”

James E. Faust’s talk, The Great Imitator.

Music: “Homeward Bound” by Johnny Easton

Becoming A Disciple of Our Lord Jesus Christ - Connections Between Christlike Attributes and Repentance


These episodes just keep getting longer and longer! We think it’s worth it, though, because Elder Hales’ talk “Becoming a Disciple of Our Lord Jesus Christ” had so much to discuss. We talk about Christlike attributes and how they’re all connected with one another. We also touch on how repentance plays into the mix and share a fun fact about Elder Hales getting bullied by a local paper as a high school baseball pitcher. This is not an episode to miss!

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21 - Trust in the Lord and Lean Not - How Young Single Adults Rely on The Doctrine of Christ


This episode covers our first ever talk from the General Women’s Session and our first ever remote interview! Our guest is Aubrey Eggett, a pre-medical student at the University of Colorado at Boulder (and Wes’ sister!). She shares with us some of the unique struggles of Young Single Adult members of the church and how Sister Bonnie H. Cordon’s talk “Trust in the Lord and Lean Not” can help those members refocus on the doctrine of Christ.


20 - Drawing the Power of Jesus Christ into Our Lives - Understanding the Context of Our Covenants


With episode 20 of the podcast, we’re in the double digits twice over! Thank you for sticking with us and checking out our podcast. In this episode, we talk about President Russell M. Nelson’s talks “Drawing the Power of Jesus Christ into Our Lives” from the April 2017 General Conference. The conversation focuses on President Nelson’s suggestions as to how we can draw Christ’s power into our lives, touching on topics like the proper understanding of the Atonement of Jesus Christ, being vigilant to notice when we’re going down sinful paths, and the fact that praying for humility is a dangerous business! Again, thanks for listening to the podcast, and we’re excited to get into the 20s!


19 - Brighter and Brighter Until the Perfect Day - Pursuing Positivity in a World Glued to Gloom


This talk gave us a great chance to review some of the positive things in our lives. Mark A. Bragg’s talk “Brighter and Brighter Until the Perfect Day” (April 2017) was a reminder that although things seem gloomy, there is so much to be grateful for. During this discussion, we share some of the ways we’ve been able to focus on positivity and try to figure out why it’s so darn easy to be negative all the time. We hope you enjoy the conversation!

18 - Confide in God Unwaveringly - Maintaining Faith and Diligence Regardless of our Circumstances



This episode features the most show notes we’ve had to date, so dig in! We talked about Elder Ulisses Soares’ “Confide in God Unwaveringly” (April 2017) and there was so much to discuss. After giving a rundown of the story of Ammon and King Limhi, we talk about confidence in God and how to build the faith to withstand trials.


17 - Our Good Shepherd - Following Christ's Example of Loving Sinners and Avoiding Bigotry


This discussion of Elder Renlund’s “Our Good Shepherd” (April 2017) took us all up, down, and around the concepts of sin and Christlike compassion for those who sin. We discuss the idea that healing takes time, we share a story or two of seeing those who sin as Christ would, and we take a stab at understanding what bigotry is and how to avoid it! (Hint: Bigotry does not come from the same root word as “bigote” in Spanish… which means mustache…)


16 - Our Father's Glorious Plan - Perspectives of Health Care Professionals on the Plan of Salvation


This episode features Chase Bastian, our first ever guest on the show and a second-year medical student with Jason. We talk with Chase about Elder Weatherford T. Clayton’s talk “Our Father’s Glorious Plan,” and how Elder Clayton uses his years in medical practice as a lens through which he views the plan of salvation. Chase and Jason both talk about how their understanding of the plan of salvation will apply during their future as medical doctors, as well. Talking so much about death made this a slightly heavier episode than normal, but bear with us! It really helps put the plan of salvation in perspective for those who have thought about this in the past.

15 - His Daily Guiding Hand - How to be led so we can lead


In this episode, we unpack the care package talked about by Brother M. Joseph Brough in his talk “His Daily Guiding Hand” from the April 2017 General Conference. We discuss the importance of commandments, priesthood leaders, and connecting with Jesus Christ in order to make us instruments in His hands. Don’t miss Jason’s awesome mission story near the end of the episode!

14 - Gathering the Family of God - Using Technology and Revelation with the Spirit of Elijah


We’re back! Today, we get into the April 2017 General Conference to discuss President Eyring’s talk “Gathering the Family of God.” President Eyring always gives us a lot to think about, and this time we dive pretty deep into his comments linking family history work to the greater context of the plan of salvation and the light of Christ. We also focus in on President Eyring’s personal experience of doing family history and his thoughts about why technology, while helpful in family history work, will always need to be supplemented with prayer and revelation.

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12 - The Perfect Path to Happiness - What We Get Wrong About the Plan of Salvation


In a last-minute effort to get one more discussion in before the general sessions of April's conference kick-off, the guys discuss President Monson's talk "The Perfect Path to Happiness." We talk about how to keep the Plan of Salvation simple, why we mess it up when we make it too complicated, and then we complicate it with some really deep questions!

More show notes to come later!

11 - Principles and Promises - Why the Word of Wisdom isn't all about Health

We learned a lot about the Word of Wisdom when reviewing President Thomas S. Monson’s talk “Principles and Promises.” The talk itself isn’t even five minutes long, but President Monson’s teachings gave us more than enough to discuss. In this episode, we touch on how we explain the Word of Wisdom to non-members, concerns some members have over the use of legalized marijuana, and how in the world we get by without coffee. Reflecting on how we’ve seen the blessings of the Word of Wisdom in our lives was a great experience, and we hope you can gain as much from this discussion as we did!

  • Theme Music: Homeward Bound by Jonny Easton